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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.09.28 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Fink Angel on 28/09/2007 16:12:23
$59,000 dollars. Wow, that'll keep the government's coffers full for about a thousandth of a second.
The guy earned the money. Check he's paid taxes and whatever else is due and give him the rest back.
Just like the UK, people moan about illegal immigrants while the everyone:
Wants to pay less and less for everything ...
Causing wages to go down ...
And the native population don't want to work for that little ...
Or don't want to work at all while they can claim benefits ...
So illegals come into the country often looking to better themselves and their families back home.
You think the guy really wanted to leave behind all he knew, his country, his language, his family, to work for $5.50 an hour just to stiff the American people?
Discgraceful treatment of the guy IMO.
Edit: replaced word deemed offensive by the magic asterisks.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.09.28 16:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Tenerhaddi
HAH owned And good he lost his money! people paying taxes like me so he shouldnt have it back as he hasn't paid taxes.
In the UK I could legally earn ú2.75 an hour ($5.50), declare my earnings to the tax man, and STILL not pay taxes as that is so little it wouldn't even get me into the lowest income tax bracket.
You're making it sound like he got caught ramming through the border booths with a lorry load of gold he'd just stolen from the local orphanage.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tenerhaddi
and? he should of paid taxs! I dont feel sorry for anyone who works at a job where he doesnt pay his way like any one else do. I pay my taxes and I am legal. He is not and he not paying his taxes but he can come up with $59k ummm like i said good he lost it!
oh and I haven't heard anyone who earns less than the min wages in UK so yer ok... even you could you be getting benfits to support you.
what ever your in the country illegal then you take the risk. I going to the US and apply for visa and do it though legal prosses I not going to go the illegal and take the risk.
*Sorry for spelling and grammer I hate dyslexia*
My point being that if he did declare his income of $5.50 to the tax man, how much of that would the tax man take? I don't know what your rates are in the USA, but I'm sure it's not much, if anything at all.
If anyone deserves a rebuke it's the employer paying much less than minimum wage (again, not sure what that equates to in the USA but the UK it's ú5.52 / $11.04 approx. p/h for 22 and over), so no local would even want to take the job, so it's filled by an illegal worker.
"Taking the risk" of working illegally should not mean getting all your earnings taken off you at the airport.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.09.28 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
The US Federal Minimum Wage is $5.25. However, the Florida wage as of Jan 1st became $6.60.
Thanks for that. It's pretty scandalous how people are expected to live on that. Also the minimum wage for people below 22 in the UK is really, really awful too. (Not that over 22 it's that great). ú3.40 an hour under 18, ú4.60 an hour 18-21.
I was earning about ú2.20 an hour as a kid doing a part time supermarket shop job over 20 years ago!
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.09.28 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tenerhaddi
I UK too m8! but again he hasnt declared any thing and paid no taxes! I dont care what he earns! If he not doing things legal then tuff.
Its simple! he declares what he earns and if he legal then np but I don't see why I mean $59k alot and i bet all that gone to taxes! I just hope the job he went to gets hit hard with a fine!
Ah, sorry thought you were stateside. Look, that $59k was his money he'd earned in 11 years of living frugally and saving, all so he had something to take back home.
11 years.
Of his life.
Just taken away.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.09.28 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tenerhaddi
O.o 20 years ago not so darn high like it is these days but yet again all i can say is You OLD FART!! lmao 
LOL, ain't so old just yet mate, don't pension me off!
37, married, still have the gaming urge like I did when I had a ZX Spectrum in 82 (before you were born?) ... I'm just lucky enough to have a few bob to now to be able to buy all the kit. 
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.09.29 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin
I'm with Dark Matter here, there's a reason why they're called illegal immigrants. Any money they earn is illegal, end of.
No, the term "illegal immigrant" just means that they entered the country illegally. ie they do not have the correct papers, visa, work permit etc.
It doesn't mean that everything else involving they do or say is illegal.
The crux of the matter isn't that he earned the money while working without a work permit in the USA, it was that he failed to fill out the form declaring that he was carrying more than $10,000 on him. So they took it all away from him.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.09.29 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
To top off that minimum wage, our craptastic company wal-mart starts off all of it's employees at that wage. To throw salt on the wound they just recently decreased the total full time positions so basically upper management has those spots filled. Now our min wage employees are only getting maybe 32 hours a week. If ya want a little lemon to go with that salt in the wound, they now have a computer at the main headquarters that does your scheduling and it goes like this:
If you can't work a certain day, it doesn't schedule you for that day.
If you can't work certain hours that day, it won't schedule for that day.
What does this mean? Working mothers lose hours because they made need to pick up their children from school.
College students may lose hours because of class.
A second job may be out of the question.
I hate that company.
I think min wage in my area is $5.25 or something. I remember getting a job at Roundtable pizza years back making $4.25. Well after a couple years at the place I was making $5.25 and the min wage got raised to it but I wasn't compensated so basically I was making min wage again.
I was $5 as a bartender but I also got tips. Technically your supposed to claim tips but I have yet to meet someone who does.
The sad thing is that we, the public are kind of responsible for the downward spiral. People want to pay less and less and less, and generally don't care what happens as long as they get food / clothes / whatever as cheap as possible.
Things might start to look up if people realised there was an ethical bottom line, and squeezing that margin any lower means someone somewhere is earning below minimum wage or working in a sweatshop etc.
The big chains will always still make their profits, but the little guys get squeezed and squeezed.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.09.29 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin
Here its illegal for an illegal immigrant to make money, because they aren't allowed to be here.
My point being that the status of being an illegal immigrant does not lose you every right under the sun.
Their money is not insta-impoundable on a whim.
They can't be shot on sight by anyone who fancies it, because, well, if he wasn't here illegally he wouldn't be in my gun sights officer would he?
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